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“A lot of the time it comes down to whether I’d rather set a world record in February or win the World Championships and defend my title in September. There's a lot that goes into it, but I think I'm fast enough to go after a world record in a few events.”

My guest for today's episode is none other than Cole Hocker, the 23-year-old American middle distance star who shocked the world at the Paris Olympics by winning gold in the men's 1500m. While the pre-race buzz centered on Jakob Ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr, it was Cole who flew under the radar and stormed to victory in an Olympic record of 3:27.65.

If you go back into our podcast archives, you can find an episode that we did with Cole in Paris just 48 hours after his victory. It was really cool to have that moment etched in time and to hear how fresh his thoughts and feelings were. We touch on life since Paris in this conversation.

From his breakout performance in Tokyo to the Olympic triumph in Paris, Cole has established himself as one of the best middle distance runners in the world. We reflect on his incredible 2024 season and learn how he's gearing up for another big year with the World Championships in Tokyo on the horizon. Plus his participation in Grand Slam track's inaugural season.

Cole is also here to announce that one of his first races in 2025 will be the 3000m at the iconic Millrose Games this February in New York City. You can get your tickets at the Armory's website.

Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

Guest: Cole Hocker | @colehocker on Instagram

Time stamps:

4:02 - Highlights since becoming the 1500m Olympic champion

6:25 - Plans looking ahead to 2025

8:05 - What recovery looked like for him post-Olympics

9:00 - Racing the 3000m at Millrose Games announcement

10:33- How he’s getting ready to move up to the 3K

11:50 - Why he’s racing the 3K instead of the mile at Millrose 

17:13 - Going after the 3K world record 

18:31 - Looking ahead to race plans for the 2025 season 

22:42 - Ways he’s hoping to continue improving 

25:44 - Deciding to sign with Grand Slam Track

28:35 - When he’ll start race-specific training 

29:24 - His upcoming 600m race with Fred Kerley

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Chris Chavez and Preet Majithia review the second season of the Netflix documentary series, SPRINT. We share our thoughts and analysis on all four episodes and break down the top storylines throughout the season. You can listen to our review of the first season of SPRINT here.

Hosts: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Preet Majithia | @prm_32 on X

Time stamps:

1:22 - Season 2 overview: cast, notable athletes missing 

3:42 - Season 1 highlights 

Episode 1: ALL AMERICAN

5:32 - Noah Lyles

10:21 - Fred Kerley

13:10 - Christian Coleman 

15:40 - Gabby Thomas, Dennis Mitchell’s pro group 

17:57 - Little focus on athletes’ personalities outside of track 

19:48 - Highlights of episode 1

Episode 2: CHANGING OF THE GUARD

20:35 - Jamaican storylines

22:23 - Kishane Thompson, Oblique Seville 

25:53 - Shericka Jackson 

31:27 - Julien Alfred

Episode 3: GOING FOR GOLD: PART 1

33:45 - Series shifts to the Olympics

37:00 - Marcell Jacobs 

39:01 - Sha’Carri Richardson, Melissa Jefferson, TeeTee Terry  

44:10 - Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce

48:17 - Shericka Jackson 

50:24 - Julien Alfred

Episode 4: GOING FOR GOLD: PART 2

56:32 - Men’s 100m final 

1:02:19 - Kenny Bednarek

1:03:50 - Letsile Tebogo

1:05:10 - Men’s 200m: Noah Lyles getting COVID

1:08:36 - Women’s 200m: Gabby Thomas, Julien Alfred

1:11:32 - How the series ends + U.S. men’s 4x100m relay

Final takeaways:

1:14:39 - Parting thoughts and final rating 

1:17:53 - What comes next + will there be a Season 3? 

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“I will forever bet on myself no matter what. If my gut is telling me something’s going wrong, I'm going to make sure it’s going right. I'm always going to bet on myself no matter what… And that’s been paying off my entire career."

Fred Kerley joins us live in Eugene after finishing third in the 100m at the U.S. Olympics Trials to book his ticket to another Olympic Games. From switching events to switching sponsors to trusting his fitness, Fred Kerley is always going to bet on himself. Fred shares about how he’s built unshakeable confidence in his abilities, what in his training indicated that he was capable of qualifying for the 100m, his goals for the Olympics, what he thinks it’ll take to win Olympic gold, and how he manages pressure. Hear more from Fred and what’s ahead for his career in this episode of the CITIUS MAG Podcast.

Host: Hosts: Chris Chavez | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

Guest: Fred Kerley | @fkerley99 on Instagram

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CITIUS MAG LIVE From Eugene! will bring you daily interviews with athletes, coaches and notable folks in town at noon PT each day. Our guests for day seven of the Olympic Trials include Fred Kerley and Taliyah Brooks.

LIVE SHOWS

Good Morning Track and Field will start your day with some takes and updates from Eugene hosted by Eric Jenkins, Mitch Dyer and Karen Lesiewicz at 8:30 a.m. PT.

TRIALS TALK – our hit daily podcast series from 2021 – returns on The CITIUS MAG Podcast feed + streaming live immediately post-race to unpack all of the action immediately following the meet.

LIVE MEET COVERAGE

Stay updated on live results, mixed zone interviews and more on the CITIUS MAG Instagram, X and Threads pages while the meet is underway each evening. All interviews will be uploaded to our aforementioned YouTube channel.

MORNING RUNS

Also, CITIUS MAG Newsletter subscribers will be getting daily emails from the Trials as David Melly rounds up all of the biggest results, stories + our best interviews, photos and original content from Eugene. If you want to hook a friend, there’s no better time than the Trials so forward them the emails or encourage them to sign up today for FREE here: https://citiusmag.beehiiv.com/

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We just wrapped up a jam-packed weekend with track and field taking place in Eugene with the NCAA Championships, Portland for the Portland Track Festival, Rome for the European Championships and New York City for the NYC Grand Prix.

NYC GRAND PRIX

Lots of action to recap including Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone giving the 400m American record a scare; Noah Lyles clocked a 19.77 into the wind, Eric Holt goes viral after taking 2022 world champion Jake Wightman to the line in the 1500m, Elaine Thompson Herah may be seriously injured after pulling up after the 100m. But the biggest story was 2022 World champion Fred Kerley and his sponsor Asics decided to part ways. Kerley came out onto the track wearing a competitor's product. Kerley did not end up racing after slipping in the blocks twice. He was not disqualified but elected not to race.

NCAA Championships

From McKenzie Long and Parker Valby to Shane Cohen and Parker Wolfe, we look at some of the collegiate stars who could be poised for a breakthrough to make the U.S. Olympic team in just a few weeks.

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Chris Chavez survived his bachelor party for a track-free weekend as Anderson Emerole updates him on his highlights from the 2024 Penn Relays + takeaways from the Shanghai Diamond League.

PENN RELAYS

– 16-year-old Quincy Wilson split 44s on the high school boys' 4x400m relay twice and put his Bullis Academy (MD) team in contention against some of the top Jamaican squads.

– Harvard's women's team clocked the fastest collegiate DMR in history with a 10:37.55 to win the Championship of America and were anchored in 4:21 by Maia Ramsden.

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– Yared Nuguse opened up his outdoor season with a 3:51.06 mile victory and tried to get his teammate Olli Hoare under the Olympic standard but he finished in 3:51.28.

SHANGHAI DIAMOND LEAGUE

– South Africa's Akani Simbine beat Christian Coleman and Fred Kerley in 10.01.

– Great Britain's Daryll Neita won the women's 200m in 22.62 as Sha'Carri Richardson finished third in 23.11.

– Kenya's Beatrice Chepkoech won the women's steeplechase in 9:07.36. Emma Coburn dropped out with 1000m remaining due to a ankle tweak. Gabbi Jennings notched a 9:19.39 personal best for fifth place.

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Alexis Ohanian Introduces the 776 Invitational This September

Olympic bronze medalist Gabby Thomas and Alexis Ohanian, the Reddit co-founder who now heads the venture capital firm 776, have announced plans for the 776 Invitational – a women’s-only track event in September. Read more about it here: https://citiusmag.com/articles/gabby-thomas-reddit-founder-alexis-ohanini-776-invitational

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Chris Chavez, Kyle Merber, David McCarthy Jasmine Todd and Katelyn Hutchison dive into another exciting day of track and field in Budapest at the World Athletics Championships! Day 2 saw drama in both the men’s 100m semifinals and final, surprises in the first round of the women’s 400m, and a close finish in the men’s 10,000m. Some of the most notable highlights of the day include: 

– Men’s 100m final: Unpacking Noah Lyles’ win in the 100m final + defending champion Fred Kerley not making it out of the semifinal

– Women’s 100m semifinal: 5 women with a strong chance of taking gold in the 100m final: Sha’Carri Richardson, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce, Shericka Jackson, Marie-Josée Ta Lou, and Julien Alfred

– Men’s 1500m semifinal: Yared Nuguse heads into the final with the fastest time from the semifinals + Jakob Ingebrigtsen is looking as smooth as ever 

– Men’s 10,000m final: Joshua Cheptegei battles it out for the win in a close finish

– Women’s 400m prelims: Britton Wilson carted off the track in a wheelchair + other surprises in the first round of the women’s 400

+ Much more

CITIUS MAG's coverage of the 2023 World Athletics Championships is powered by ASICS.

CITIUS MAG LIVE AT WORLDS: The show will air on the CITIUS MAG YouTube Channel between the morning and evening sessions of competition (Every day at 8 a.m. EST in the U.S.). 

CHAMPS CHATS ON THE CITIUS MAG PODCAST DAILY: The CITIUS MAG team of Chris, Kyle, David McCarthy, Jasmine Todd and Katelyn Hutchison will unpack all of the day’s biggest surprises and offer up their insights and analysis from being at the new National Athletics Centre and interviewing athletes each day. The podcast recording will be streamed on YouTube at the end of every day and will be also available on The CITIUS MAG Podcast feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to shows. 

DAILY CITIUS MAG NEWSLETTER: David Melly will recap all of the biggest moments, highlighting his must-watch athletes and events for each day while also pulling together some of our best content, photos and social moments that the CITIUS MAG team captures.

Chris Chavez and Kyle Merber break down all of the sprints races taking place at the 2023 World Athletics Championships in Budapest from Aug. 19-27.

Here’s the full broadcast schedule and how to watch. | A full schedule of events in Eastern Time can be found here.

Here are the biggest questions around each respective event:

Women’s 100m: The best event of the world championships?

Men’s 100m: How healthy is Fred Kerley? Could Marcell Jacobs steal it again? Wide open?

Women’s 200m: Shericka Jackson vs. Gabby Thomas will surely be epic

Men’s 200m: How fast will Noah Lyles go? World record?

Men’s 400m: Who has the better comeback story: Steven Gardiner or Wayde Van Niekerk? Or Michael Norman?

Women’s 400m: Now that Sydney is out, is this Marileidy Paulino’s to lose?

Women’s 400m Hurdles: Femke Bol’s golden moment awaits

Men’s 400m Hurdles: Karsten Warholm and Rai Benjamin Round II

Women’s 100m Hurdles: What will the AIU decide on Tobi Amusan and what’s that mean for everyone else?

Men’s 100m Hurdles: Grant Holloway goes for the threepeat

CITIUS MAG’s Coverage 

CITIUS MAG LIVE AT WORLDS: Our hit show from last year is back! The way we described it was “think of the TODAY Show but for track and field die-hard fans” and it delivered, featuring interviews with Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce, Rai Benjamin, Michael Johnson, Seb Coe, Hellen Obiri, Malcolm Gladwell and many more notable friends. And this time around should be no different – every day of the World Championships, we will be inviting athletes, coaches and fellow media personalities to sit back and chat with Chris Chavez and Kyle Merber.

The show will air on the CITIUS MAG YouTube Channel between the morning and evening sessions of competition (Every day at 8 a.m. EST in the U.S.)

CHAMPS CHATS ON THE CITIUS MAG PODCAST DAILY: The CITIUS MAG team of Chris, Kyle, David McCarthy, Jasmine Todd and Katelyn Hutchison will unpack all of the day’s biggest surprises and offer up their insights and analysis from being at the new National Athletics Centre and interviewing athletes each day. The podcast recording will be streamed on YouTube at the end of every day and will be also available on The CITIUS MAG Podcast feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to shows.

MORNING RUNS: If you’re in Budapest, there will be two chances to catch some miles with the CITIUS MAG team in partnership with ASICS: one on Aug. 21 and another on Aug. 24. We’ll have giveaways, coffee and treats for people who are in town. The runs will start at 8 a.m. from ASICS House at Erzsébet tér, 1051 Budapest.

DAILY CITIUS MAG NEWSLETTER: David Melly will recap all of the biggest moments, highlighting his must-watch athletes and events for each day while also pulling together some of our best content, photos and social moments that the CITIUS MAG team captures. You can sign up for the newsletter here.

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Gordon and Kevin react to Eliud Kipchoge's first Boston Marathon and Hellen Obiri's Boston Marathon win. Plus, enticing sprinter news with Fred Kerley, Noah Lyles and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s show, we touch on the weekend of racing at the U.S. Indoor Track and Field Championships, World Cross Country Championships. We also saw a pair of world records fall with Ryan Crouser and Femke Bol. We also discuss 100m world champion Fred Kerley leaving Nike and signing with Asics.

U.S. Indoor Championships + World Cross Country Championships

Who were the biggest winners and performers at the 2023 World Cross Country Championships in Australia and USATF Indoor Track and Field Championships in Albuquerque? We break it all down for you.

Ryan Crouser World Record

Olympic champion Ryan Crouser launched the farthest shot put throw in history. He tossed it  23.38 meters (76 feet, 8 1/2 inches) at a high school meet in Idaho. Crouser threw farther than his indoor world record from 2021 (22.82) and his outdoor world record from 2021 (23.37).

Femke Bol Indoor 400m World Record 

The longest-standing track world record fell. Femke Bol broke a 41-year-old world record when she went 49.26 at the Dutch Indoor Championships. The previous record was helf by Czech Jarmila Kratochvilova‘s world record of 49.59 from March 1982. What's this mean for Sydney McLaughlin vs. Femke Bol?

Fred Kerley Signs With Asics

World champion and Olympic medallist Fred Kerley announced that he has signed with Asics. What are our impressions of the deal and Asics' foray into the sprints?

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The CITIUS MAG crew of Chris Chavez, Kyle Merber, Jasmine Todd and Katelyn Hutchison recap Day 1 of the World Athletics Championships in Eugene, Oregon. Team USA mixed 4x400m relay brought home the first medal for the home team with a  bronze medal. Allyson Felix ran the final race of her career and finished with 19 career World Championship medals. The Dominican Republic takes the first gold medal on the track. Watch and listen for more of our analysis and insights from Hayward Field.

Other topics include: Vibe check on the fans and atmosphere at the first-ever World Athletics Championships on U.S. soil; Evan Jager looks like his old self; a healthy Marquise Dendy has a great story, how Kenya's Ferdinand Omurwa overcame visa issues to make it to America and race the 100m, Team USA puts three women in the 1500m semifinal + more.

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Kevin and Gordon discuss Lamont Marcell Jacobs and Fred Kerley racing in Nairobi and all the other top races coming up this weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Friday! This is the third edition of Track Snacks – a mini series taking you into the weekend where Chris Chavez and a fellow CITIUS MAG staffer share the story of an athlete who they're excited about right now that you can expect to see compete at the World Athletics Championships Oregon22 (July 15–24, 2022).

In this episode, we're actually joined by the actual athlete. Marcell Jacobs is the reigning Olympic champion in the 100m, the reigning 60m world indoor champion and the European record holder in the men's 100 meters. Jacobs was one of the biggest surprises of the Tokyo Olympics when he ran the race of his life to become the first Olympic champion not named Usain Bolt since 2008. He proved it was no fluke by winning the World Indoor Championships in the 60m in a long-awaited clash against 2019 World Champion Christian Coleman. The fans are in for a real treat because they won't have to wait until July to see them go head-to-head again. This week. Prefontaine Classic race organizers announced Jacobs, Coleman, Olympic silver medalist Fred Kerley, Olympic bronze medalist Andre De Grasse, Noah Lyles, Marvin Bracy, Kenndy Bendarek and Ronnie Baker would be part of the deepest 100m race in history. It's the appetizer before the main course at Worlds.

Track Snacks is presented by Hayward Magic. Everyone knows how much all of us in the CITIUS MAG family love track & field, and how much we enjoy sharing that love with you all. Well, we’ve got a few big love-sharing ideas in the works and it all takes place in Eugene, Oregon this summer. Hayward Field will be the home to the Prefontaine Classic, the USATF Outdoor Championships and the World Athletics Championships. We'll be there and you should be too. Visit https://citiusmag.com/summerofhayward/ for all the information on dates and tickets.

Track Snacks is sponsored by @HaywardMagic, the Instagram home for the true track & field diehards, dreamers and fans. Sharing the magic of the sport and elevating the athletes that push it forward. Follow them on Instagram @HaywardMagic.

Intro music: "Believe In Yourself" by Norm Cotone

Kevin and Gordon discuss Grant Fisher breaking the 10,000m American record, where Fisher goes from here, the strong performances from Mo Ahmed and Elise Cranny, the season debut of Fred Kerley and Ewa Swoboda breaking 7 seconds in the 60m. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices