Hobbs Kessler

New high school mile record-holder and future Washington Husky, Owen Powell, joins the show just days after crushing his second sub-4-minute mile in February, etching his name in history books.First, Owen ran a sizzling 3:57.74 on February 14 against collegiate runners at the Husky Classic in Washington. Then, to add to his incredible start to 2025, he blew the doors off the national high school indoor mile record (held by Hobbs Kessler) with a time of 3:56.66 at BU's Terrier DMR Challenge on February 21. The signs have been pointing toward this type of performance for a while; last season Owen was named 2023-24 Gatorade Player of the Year for the state of Washington, running a 1:48.60 in the 800m to gain national attention. Owen also won the Washington 3A State Championship in the 1,600m in 2023, and state championships in cross country and the 800m in 2024. In addition to his mile and 800m PRs, he has also run 2:24.41 in the 1,000m, 3:44.70 in the 1500m, and 8:04.83 in the 3,000m.Heading into his senior year he had an impressive 3.68 GPA in the classroom. Outside of school, Owen is an avid mountain biker and rock climber, while also volunteering locally as a youth track coach.In today's conversation, Owen takes me through his remarkable week of performances, his mindset leading into this outdoor season, and his thoughts on Webb's record, what his training looks like, and so much more. Tap into the Owen Powell Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Jason and Kevin discuss Josh Hoey, Nikki Hiltz, Hobbs Kessler, Shelby Houlihan, Grant Holloway and all the other news makers from this year's USATF Indoor Championships. Then, the guys chat about Jacob Kiplimo possibly breaking two hours in the marathon, a trio of boys going sub four minutes in the mile and the state of track and field on television.

On today’s show, we have a lot to talk about. Josh Hoey just ran 1:43.24 for 800 meters—indoors. That’s the second-fastest time ever run indoors, behind only Wilson Kipketer. We’ll break down what this means for the American 800m scene, how he’s addressed skepticism that inevitably comes with a performance like this and whether Hoey is suddenly a legitimate outdoor medal contender.

Hobbs Kessler doubled at USAs, taking both the 3000m and 1500m titles like it was just another weekend at the track. We’ll talk about what impressed us the most about Kessler's double, how the men’s middle distances are shaping up for 2025 and why it was OK for Cooper Teare and Cole Hocker to skip out.

And then there’s the "rivalry" that was quickly dispelled by the athletes – Nikki Hiltz vs. Shelby Houlihan. Just a few years ago, Houlihan was untouchable. Then came the four-year ban, and now, she’s back—and already battling for the top spot. In the 3000m, Houlihan got to the front, squeezed the pace, and dared anyone to come with her. And Nikki Hiltz? They came with her. And then passed her. In the final strides of the women’s 3000m, Hiltz outkicked Houlihan, officially stamping themselves as America’s best championship racer in the middle distances.

Plus, we’ll get into the results of the sprints and why the 2025 World Indoor Championships in Nanjing might be one of the weirdest global meets we’ve ever seen—between withdrawals, travel logistics, and a US team that’s missing some of its biggest stars.

Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram⁠ 

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The 2025 Millrose Games delivered historic performances, with Grant Fisher setting a 3000m world record (7:22.91) and Yared Nuguse breaking the Wanamaker Mile world record (3:46.63) in a night that rewrote the record books.Breaking it down:🔹 Fisher vs. Hocker in the 3000mFisher, the Olympic 5000m & 10,000m medalist, held off a stunning challenge from Olympic 1500m champion Cole Hocker in a race for the ages.Fisher ran 29.82, 29.82, 29.54 splits in the closing laps but couldn’t shake Hocker. With three laps to go, Hocker surprisingly surged into the lead, pushing the pace in pursuit of a world record.Fisher reclaimed the lead in the final stretch, securing the win and the $25,000 WR bonus with7:22.91, as Hocker clocked7:23.14—the second-fastest time in history.🔹 Nuguse dominates the Wanamaker MileJust an hour after Fisher’s record, Nuguse made history with a world record of3:46.63, breaking Yomif Kejelcha’s3:47.01 mark.Despite Josh Kerr withdrawing due to illness, the race delivered fireworks.Hobbs Kessler (3:46.90) also broke the previous WR, finishing second.Australia’s Cam Myers set a world U20 record (3:47.48), and France’s Azeddine Habz set a national record (3:47.56).+ more highlights and analysis

He's coming for it all. 

2025 is the year of Hobbs Kessler. 

Back on the podcast today is 21-year-old mid-distance Olympic star Hobbs Kessler, who is gearing up for the Wanamaker Mile at the Milrose Games in New York City on February 8, 2025. (Hobbs came in 2nd last year at this race with a time of 3:48.66; fellow American star Yared Nuguse took the win.)

Hobbs was most recently on the episode right after placing 5th in the 1500m in Paris, running a 3:29.45, in the most stacked and competitive 1500 race of all time. He also ran the 800m in the Olympics, but was eliminated in the semifinals. 

Hobbs competed for Skyline High School in Ann Arbor, Michigan (the school he attended for academics did not offer competitive sports). It was in high school that Hobbs ran an indoor mile record of 3:57.66. Hobbs then ran a 3:34.36 in the 1500m while still in high school, which was faster than the NCAA record at the time; this catapulted him to his first Olympic Trials in 2021. 

While Hobbs' father was his high school coach, he delegated most of the planning for his son's training to Michigan coach Ron Warhurst, whom he still trains under as a member of the Very Nice Track Club in Michigan.

This 21-year-old is chock full of professionalism and has a laundry list of accomplishments. 

In today's conversation, we dive into Hobbs's fall training, his mindset for the Millrose games and the 2025 season, how he views breakthroughs, advice to make your 2025 your best year yet, why 2025 is the year of Hobbs Kessler, and so much more. 

We can't wait for you to hear this episode. Lace-up your shoes, throw in your AirPods, and enjoy this conversation with the legend Hobbs Kessler. 

Tap into the Hobbs Kessler Special.  

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